If we could get Iris Scanners that some how kept chastity belts locked on our daughters, I would be game. The only way they open is if mom or dad's eye is scanned from a remote reader thats connect to the belt.

Would the belt stay on until 35 or until dad has approved of an acceptable suitor?

your forgot the third option ... " Until hell freezes over"

Boy Amy, I tell ya, this is real touchy....great blog post by the way...

I think the discussion really starts with, what will this iris scan be used for? Will it be a government sactioned thing, that requires me to scan to purchase the basic... neccessities, i.e food, clothing, fuel? Or will it be a security thing, used for when I use a credit card or want to get into a secure building, i.e I have to swipe my badge to get into my work, a scan would replace the swipe?

I'm a believer that the mark of the beast will be an imprint, a microchip, or a tatoo on our forehead or hand. HOWEVER, that being said....

If a scan is required for security pourposes, than it's probably a thing of the future. And we have no one to blame but ourselves. We need to get used to it. We all want faster and better technology, faster computers, smaller ipods that do more, cars that park themselves, and the list goes on for miles. How can we expect technology to suddenly halt when it begins to infringe on our rights or invade our bodies, i.e. retinal scans? I'm not saying I agree with what has happened, I'm just saying we can't gripe about the direction of things, when we ourselves pushed them in that direction.

Back to what I really wanted to say, if it's a security thing, so be it. I don't like it one bit, but at least my bank accounts will be protected...I guess (not really since the government has complete access and control over the banks now anyway, but that's a whole seperate topic and conversation to be had).

Now, the problem with that, comes down to this....once the "security scan" is implemented, how easy would it be for the government, wheter it be ours or one that is created through an apocolyptic event, to simply, "flip the switch", and make it something we now HAVE to have to even make purchases for neccessities, regardless of how we are paying. Well, in my opinion, that just became The Mark.

Now the thought of "OH CRAP! I took The Mark! I'm goin to hell!" comes into play.

Let's just say retinal scans begin tomorrow. We go out and allow ourselves to be scaned and our scans are filed away for security pourposes. Now let's say armageddon hits next month. The Anti-Christ comes into power, and demands that all global citizens must be scanned to obtain food, water, fuel, basically, have any rights whatsoever.

Do I believe that a Christ follower, who allowed themselves to be retinal scanned for security pourposes, will be judged and held accountable for the "changing of the rules", so to speak?

No, I don't.

Two reasons for this:
1 - Any follower of Christ, depending on how you believe, will have been raptured, and will be in God's presence.
2 - (here's the other belief) If you are of the belief that we are in fact in the midst of the great tribulation, and are just waiting for the rise of the Anti-Christ (and again, this is a completely different topic and seperate discussion would need to take place), I believe God will use these followers, for the good of the war. As being "marked", pre-Anti-Christ, they were followers of THE Christ, and are now in prime position to infiltrate the Anti-Christ's defenses, government, and inner circle. Basically, spies, and probably becoming martyr's....

Personally, scan me. I can't stop what's coming, and I'm going to go along with it until it forces me to decide between my Saviour and "it". That's my line in the sand. What's coming is coming, and it was set into motion by a power larger than us. When the time comes, if something I have done or allowed to be done to myself, is used as The Mark, well, so be it, I just became one who can be used for the good of the war. I will gladly sacrifice myself to get word to underground belivers or whatever God would have me do with the opportunity. I'll be that martyr. Wouldn't be real happy about it, but I'll do it.

I know I will probably get hammered for alot of what I've said, and...well, that's ok, but I'm tellin ya, God has a battle plan. And make not mistake, it's just that, a BATTLE plan.

Sorry if I turned your post into Revelation, but that's kinda the direction I see things like iris scans going....and sorry for this rediculously long comment! ;o)

No apologies necessary, Jason. Interesting thoughts!

What about the privacy or Constitutional aspects of iris scans; specifically of them being mandatory?

Iris scanners are in fact the beginning (or continuation) of the end and although Jason has made a fantastic argument, I think he pretty much came to the conclusion I did that once the scanners go into use, there will be no need of an ACTU...AL mark because once your "in the system" why reinvent the wheel with another all encompassing system to use to control all things.. and although he makes a wonderful argument for the idea that "God can't blame me cause they changed the rules" I think HE can and I in fact believe HE WILL! Not entirely because you took the time to think about how to get out of the punishment ( most of us as parents know the kids were rationalizing how they weren’t going to get in trouble when they knew they were doing something wrong) but because nowhere in the Bible does it say (to my knowledge and feel free to correct me) that the Anti Christ will create a brand new never seen before thing to mark us with, nor does it say the thing will be put into us it just says he will mark those who are his. I do know that he will be a trickster and we should put NOTHING past him, and as a full blown trust issues havin lady will take that trickster theory and ask you this....

What’s to say that the Iris scanner right now is a perfectly friendly no harm causing device, and what’s to say in a few years once your good an used to being scanned especially by the ones you have to look at to scan, or lean over to be "verified" what’s to say that those won’t be modified or replaced to PUT the mark on you like a tiny laser correction machine that corrects nothing but actually puts the number right there in your eye... Laser correction for vision takes all of 5 seconds once prepared by the Doc to your special prescription so don’t tell me can’t be done, ya the machines now don’t but they very easily CAN and so I say no thanks, I'll use my debit card without any added security thanks, my security feature to avoid identity theft is my cruddy credit score :) hehe no really people went to the bank to get cash once upon a time, and they paid with it.. they even used to (gasp) plan ahead to have enough cash on hand to get through a weekend! Yes it was easier then of course since nothing was open on Sundays but still it required forward thinking, and I like cash just fine and if i need more security than that to protect my money I'll take a gun and the New technology can stay clear of me or I can use the gun there too thanks...

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Thanks for your thoughts, Tiara!

Amy, in terms of privacy or Constitutional aspects, well, we have to give our social security #'s, our finger prints, and our dna, on any number of things as it is.

In terms of privacy, we've got traffic and neighborhood cameras that give g...limpses of our homes and of us walking down the streets. The Patriot Act, now closed (so They say) gave unlimited access to any of us for any reason.

I personally don't believe for a second, that we truly do have privacy anymore. We have some, sure, but our information, our dna, our retinal imprints, are all out there. Anyone who has been in the military has given their dna for "identification pourposes". We've all been to the eye doctor, we've all had photos of our eyes taken there.

Like I said, I most certainly don't agree with it at all, I sure won't voluntarily sign up for such a thing. If it does become a mandatory thing, I may have to recant my previous statement of "I'm in". I'm not really sure I would, having had some additional time to think about it.

Tiara, very good reading. I really wasn't trying to say that "God can't blame me..." comment you may have gotten from that. I'm just saying, God knows our heart and where it is when events occur....

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no problem, thanks for the invite.. please feel free to stop over on my last "note" and leave your ideas

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Will do.

I agree that God knows our hearts. I think this goes beyond that, though. As in, I don't think we have to pull a "God card" so-to-speak. I think we still have grounds to pull the unConstitutional card. Wouldn't you think?

I would like to think it would be unconstitutional search but I don't do "new law" that comes from a living document constitution, I'm more of a "I meant what I wrote" person when dealing with founding fathers and the iron clad constitution... that takes up 1 page, yet somehow now has a 300'page book dedicated to explaining it "US constitution for dummies" it's called!
Jason if I misinterpreted your meaning than I sincerely apologize maybe I've been surrounded by my children, however untrained they are thus far who I mentioned as example.